Monday, May 4, 2009

Ronald Weinland’s Expiration Date - September 9, 2010


Ron and Laura Weinland's Ascension to Heaven (Artist's depiction)

Ronald Weinland’s Expiration Date is September 4, 2010.


At the time of writing, we are 142 days into Ron and Laura’s ministry. There are 1118 exciting days left.

December 14, 2009 will place us 1 year into *yawn* Ron’s 1260 day End Time ministry.

Ron Weinland’s Credibility

(I know Ron really has no credibility, but I’m playing along with his delusion just for fun.)

Ron must keep up appearances and deal with facts which continue to contradict his delusional claims. He must do this for himself, his believers and most importantly for his credibility.

The Expiration Date of Ron’s Credibility is September 4, 2010. Why?

It is the half-way point of his ministry. The longer nothing continues to happen the greater the pressure on Ron’s credibility. He cannot back out of the claims he has made below and maintain any type of credibility.

Ron has inextricably tied himself to some outrageous claims.

1. The first is rather generic – his claim to be a prophet.

2. The second is more specific, his claim that (snicker) he and his wife are The Two Witnesses of Revelation.

3. The Seven Thunders.

4. Declaring that the Seventh Seal was opened – December 14, 2008 marking the beginning of his 1260 day End Time ministry and the 3 ½ years preceding Christ’s Return.


Questions and Answers

Q - In the absence of verification of his claims (Thunders, Trumpets, etc), can Ron maintain his claim of being the 1st of The Two Witnesses of Revelation?

A - No, of course not!

Q - Could the Two Witnesses of Revelation mistake the beginning of their God given ministry? (Guffaw)

A - No, of course not!

Q - Can Ron readjust his claims and maintain any credibility whatsoever?

A - No, of course not! There is no reset on this!

Ronald Weinland has painted himself into a corner he cannot get out of. This has been documented in his books, sermons, and on his website as well as on the websites of those opposing this false prophet’s claims.

Ron has written his own end and the clock is ticking.

A question comes to mind: "What kind of person could make such claims, have them fail, and continue to make similar claims and still live with themself?"

Tick Tock. Your time runs short, Ron Weinland.

Dill Weed

59 comments:

jack635 said...

I'll tell you what kind of person:

Someone who not only deludes his followers, but even himself. He deludes himself into his beliefs so he won't feel guilty taking money from those who cannot afford to give it.

When I do "tithe", I give some money to the homeless or food to a food bank instead of a "church" or "charity". And I don't call it tithing, I call it giving.

Dill Weed said...

Gosh! (Covers mouth with hand),

Dill Weed, doe Ron owe you money or something?


Dill Weed

David Ben-Ariel said...

The Plain Truth About Ron Weinland

jack635 said...

David,

It is because of people like you that there are atheists in this world.

jack635 said...

DW,
take heed:

David Bent Aerial has a habit of spamming blogs and web site discussion boards.

Dill Weed said...

Nah, it's ok, Jack.

I left a comment on his site. So, he is welcome here.


Dill Weed

Anonymous said...

But where exactly is your proof in saying he's wrong?
Maybe he is wrong; but what if he's not?

I think before making statements against him you should find the proof to prove if he is wrong. There is no saying what is wrong with the earth; but there is something wrong. No matter how you look at it; what you believe or not believe; everyone knows somewhere in their heads that there IS something wrong with the world.

Anonymous said...

PROOF he is wrong??? Heck, there are 10 or 12 invisible elephants in my garage... Can you prove that I'm wrong...?

Anonymous said...

The people writing comments about
Ronald Weinland sure sound like the ones the Bible said were around Noah just prior to the rain!
Look, Every prophet of God has been
killed for what they told everyone God was telling them. Rons end will be the same. The masses have never done what God told them to do.We need a scapegoat!! Ron and his wife will be it just before Jesus returns. Dont you see... all of you that are writing about Ron, You are the first of many to persecute Ron and his Wife.

Anonymous said...

Should I buy that 2008 end of world book that Ronnie wrote? I must have missed the end. I'll have to catch up before we get to the next end.

Anonymous said...

By the way..He must be a prophet since he was able to find the second prophet out of 6 billion people and marry her. Now that take talent!

Anonymous said...

God chose his wife for him. Obviously God knew best.....Just like Noah's wife was picked for him, God knows best.

Anonymous said...

Trying to find out more about God I have been reading all kinds of literature on what others believe and why they believe it. Amongst those I came across Ronald's Book, I must admit at first I was...concerned, worried and most of all intrigued. Bottom line is after spending countless hrs reading the bible and joining non-denominational study groups I have found that Ronald's words are a bit delusional. I don't remember which page it was on but he states that the US would be nuked by this time already...If there is a creator and he doesn't lie he wouldn't lie to his "profits" therefore simply enough....Ronald is false profit! Do not help his cause! Do research on your own from the bible and you ask yourself whether or not he's a profit. Although I would agree that our Country is at the end of its reign. What goes up must come down. Simple law!

Anonymous said...

Just to let you all know Jesus was hated and rejected during his time just as Ron is today. In mid December 2008 the value of the dollar fell the fastest and most in such a short time ever is when God took all this blessings from this country because America is wicked. God helped sustain America since its birth in 1776. Not no more. There will be no recovery. This country is finished since God took his blessing away. America is now without God. May Ron is the endtimes witness maybe he is not. No one will ever truly know.

joshg055 said...

lol the guy above me who left the post on august 22 is a jackass if you did believe in god he wouldnt take his blessing away from anyone for any reason but more importantly if he can do what you say he can then before america even came to be yhe would have seen the future and known it would be this way so why give us the blessing to begin with jackass there could be a creator but that doesnt make him god and your religion is trash it cant even write a good story

Tom said...

God has to pull his Blessings away at some point before Christ returns so all will see Satan for who he is, causing every knee to bow...as far as the time-line of Mr. Weinland, God told the children of Israel that they would make it to the promise land .Because they kept rejecting Gods commands, God needed to teach them and us..and we all know the end of that story. God is much more complex to put timed check point in front of him...He is in control of more than your house, town, country and planet GOD IS AWESOME !!

Anonymous said...

i have never read such a bunch of bullshit in my life. Ronald Weinland is a wannabe who wants YOUR attention. if you are all stupid enough to give it to him, then i hope your hearts are happy in your ignorance. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Anonymous said...

My brother relax I never said the dude is a prophet..For him to be a true prophet everything he predicts has to come to pass..he is prophesying the end of the world. When Jesus appears in the clouds and takes us home and Ronny Weinland is there then I will say ok he was a prophet...other then that why does everyone have to insult a person who commented on this blog and cares and loves Jesus as well as you?.....ahh whatever

M1k30L said...

lol @ Ron & company posting with anonymous comments...

well, there's just a little thing that contradicts this completely (his sayings)

all the prophets from the past, any of them, didn't call themselves like that -ever-, specially in public, the people and community identified them as prophets, their actions talked for them...

about the Noah comment, Noah tried to convince and save people (that a disaster was coming), he didn't loosed time trying to convince people he was the "chosen one"

Anonymous said...

I agree with you with all you said .I often think of the times and technology that God has brought to us too. Like then, people swayed more to tradition then the clear words written in the scriptures. However now a person/prophet could reach millions in a key-stroke. I think the books that he wrote were free so it wasn't a money game. I guess I don't understand the point of calling attention to yourself as the "chosen one" and give dates if you were not totally convinced that it was God's will. I don't care either way I just love talking with my brothers and sisters.....So don't think I'm trying to sway anyone lol

Gazbom said...

Well Mr. Weed

If your wrong about Mr. and Mrs. Weinland, you will burn in Hell my friend.

Let us both hope he is delusional!

I myself have sent him a size able chunk of my life savings as a way of protection, I know which side my bread is buttered if you like!


Love your blog by the way.

Anonymous said...

Happy Sabbath day...I went to church for almost 16 years on SUN-Day ( the first day of the week)not even knowing what the Sabbath day (Seventh day of the week)was .My old "church" never really opened the bible except to prove a point that they were talking about...Is Ron real or not? It's funny but it really doesn't matter to me. I know from what I have read of his books he always directs people back to original worship of the God Of Heaven and Earth that was written in the Bible. That has become one of the biggest blessing in my life. If Satan was using Ron Weinland to deceive me and turn me away from God ...haha ..he blew it big time, because I have never been more fired up for the true scriptures of the Lord. God Bless you all.

Anonymous said...

The guy who left the post on August 24 2009 is a jackass. American government is a wicked empire that supports gay marriage and abortion. America pushes God farther and farther away,,so God does the same with His blessings. America is on its own and America will collapse. God doesn't dwell and sin and will not answer the prayers of sinners. Life is tough. People are waiting for their wealth to return not God.

Anonymous said...

When Jesus lived in the land of Israel about 2000 years ago, he gave a very simple and concise answer when someone asked him when he would return: He explained that no one knows the hour or the day, except for God the Father (Matthew 24:36).

Even so, many people throughout history have falsely insisted that they knew the timing of Jesus' return, only to be proven wrong. During the past few centuries, for example, there have been some very influential people who have misled many people with their false predictions

Matthew 24:36

36 No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

So this man "Ronald Weinland is clearly a false prophet...and for the two witnesses they will be preaching to israel's 144,000 jews as spoken of in Revelations, they will have the spirit of Elijah & Moses...not him & his wife..clearly false....

Anonymous said...

Amen... the witnesses are the old and new testament

Eric said...

to the person who left the post of September 12, 2009. I Think it is AMAZING that God was able to use this to pull you closer to Himself. However, I am convinced that it only shows the incredible ability that He has to turn every situation back to His glory. Obviously we can see Ron is a false prophet... read his books... we weren't supposed to have another president of the USA. Revelations has plenty to warn of false prophets BEFORE the final witnesses arive. But I totally agree we have lost fear and trembling for the God of the Bible. And I praise God that you have gained this through studying about it. blessings

Vivisectus said...

Amazing stuff. I sat down and read his book - and I couldn't help but notice this little gem:

"When this book is published at the end of summer of 2006,
(with distribution in full swing in the fall), there will be a
maximum time of two years remaining before the world will be
plunged into the worst time of all human history.
By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a
world power, or it will have begun its collapse and no longer
exist as an independent nation within six months after that time.
There is a marginal, six-month window of time that God has not
yet revealed concerning this specific moment of time. This will
be revealed some time soon after the distribution of this book
begins"

sooooo - even if the 6 months leeway comes up, the US will cease to be an independent state in 3 months! Exciting news... plus, we will have a united states of europe in 2 years time???

if you need proof that this guy is a crackpot (well, a bigger crackpot than the more run-of-the-mill religionists) then here it is. Following european politics is like watching grand-prix continental drift. They cannot even pass a simple agricultural reform bill in under 2 years, never mind unite in a single nation.

ALso, seems to me it is a simple thing: one of these two statements can be true:

1: he is not a prophet, and therefor someone who hears voices that aren't there. Also, potentially suicidal as one of his prophesies involves his own death.
2: He IS a prophet, but God got it wrong the first time.

Fascinating stuff - I am looking forward to seeing what mental gymnastics he will attempt to get out of this one.

Anonymous said...

Eric (Sept.13) Wow how refreshing it was to read your post. You obviously know God because you care for your brothers and sisters and put Jesus first. I might be just as crazy as Ron is. Although I also believe he is a false prophet I would never condemn him , Simply because it isn't my job to do that. However seeing all the massive corruption that we have within pretty much ever section of our government from the President of the USA to dog catcher of your local town, and not to mention these huge organizations involved in cover ups both here and overseas involving voter fraud as well as other illegal activities. I still and will never be totally convinced we have a American President in 2009.When this American citizen thing broke there was months of he said she said instead of just showing a ACTUAL birth certificate not a copy that he got in Hawaii that you simply could get with a drivers license and a butt load of money and power(and yes you can I lived there).He went to school on a foreign born scholarship..hmm not every president sealed there school records after his citizenship was questioned ..I don't care if they failed math it's just odd. My point is although I seriously believe (my opinion only) we do not have a "American President in 2009" I still would question Ronald Weinland being the end-time witness. God Bless you and your family Eric and peace.

Anonymous said...

I know that the Bible does not say when Jesus is comming back only his Father Knows and the bible does not say when the earth will end. So why does people guess at these things but the bible does say be ready when he comes either by death or in the sky. I wish people would help those in need and quit saying things. The Bible said occupy till I (JESUS) come

Anonymous said...

religion is all bullshit.

Anonymous said...

My ex-son inlaw has become a follower of this person. He has told his 12 year old daughter (my granddaughter) that she is damned because she celebrates holidays with her mother (who thank God has custody of her). When he speaks to her he tells her of doom and horrible destruction, scaring her to death. I have read the Bible and do not say that I understand all of it but some things are just too clear. Ron cannot predict the time of THE END only the Father knows that. Why would he tell Ron when Jesus doesn't even know. And how do you proclaim yourself a Prophet? I guess these days you can say you are anybody, but the proof IS NOT THERE. He is of this world and not poor or humble. Most of all he is not humble. His writings frighten little children and confuse the teachings of Jesus.

Anonymous said...

Now I don't know much about much, and even less about Bibical Prophets.. But it seems to me that in the Bible every Prophet and God chosen Kings were ushered in and announced by someone other then themselves - i.e. Christ was ushered in by John the Baptist. King David was selected by the Prophet Samuel and was reluctant to take the role. Noah wasn't excited about his role to build an Ark and Moses was even less excited to play his role before God. And Jonah? Jonah refused until he got got swallowed by a whale! Certainly Saul(Paul), was thrilled to be struck down and blinded in the streets while happily persecuting Jews.

However, these were true God Fearing men and took on the roles assigned to them by God regardless of the consequences and
Bibical history shows that these men were truly selected by God.

I am leery of anyone that is "self-proclaimed" chosen by God without any evidence to back their claim.

I have however read his book "2008 - God's Final Witness" with an open mind and the understanding that if any of his predictions do not come true as stated - then he is a false prophet. At this time I believe him to be a false prophet as many of his predictions are ambiguous and vague and the USA has not yet completely been destroyed and disappeared in the time frame he indicated.

I do however, at this time, recommend everyone to turn to Christ with a repentant heart as I believe our society and lives as we know it to be on a destined collison course with the "end-of-the-age" as discussed by Jesus.

Will the world end in 2012? Probably not - It isn't the end of the world I worry about, but all the crackpots and cranks that "think" the world is going to end. I implore of you, get right with Christ and you will have nothing, and I mean nothing to worry about. To each and everyone of you reading this blog, I pray for you and your families that you may find salvation, peace, and contentment in your lives and may God bless you all.

Seth said...

This book predicts that the U.S. will have collapsed as a power in 2008, or at least 6 months after the fall in 2008. I hate (actually I love) to break it to you followers of this freak, but his time and margin of error has passed. If any of you had any brain cells whatsoever it would be obvious he has no clue about when anything would happen. If he really were a prophet, he would not need a 6 month margin of error to cover for himself when his prediction fails. It has been a year since he claimed the US would fall, and although it is now under poor leadership (in my opinion), we are nowhere near being erased as a world power.

As for what will happen in 2012, I do not know. I can make an educated guess that nothing will happen, there have been thousands, yes, THOUSANDS of end time predictions in the past that only leave followers feeling stupid and "prophets" proved false.

To whomever compared this man to Jesus Christ above, I feel sorry for you. Jesus did not take money from people and tell everyone they were going to die in a hellish inferno on earth.

I could sit here and ramble on about this for hours, but I am not going to.

If you follow this man I suggest counseling.

joejoesOWL said...

I think you all should look closer at the variety of beliefs and religons in this big world. Get out of your thought confined boxes and do some true mind, body and soul research! The society we live in today has teaches most people to think a certain way....if you could manipulate your mind to reverse that and use it to to find more answers in life... would you?
"If you look deep enough into the water you should be able to feel your stare from the other side other side." Joey Hall

Open your eyes,open your mind, and recieve more answers.

Anonymous said...

I find it incredibly unsettling how many people there are that still believe in magic and fairy tales.

Anonymous said...

'I NEVER KNEW YOU”
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” (Matt 7:15-23)
“I NEVER KNEW YOU”…. Those words would have to be the most devastating words one will hear from the mouth of Our Lord Jesus, and sadly MANY will hear these words as they stand outside the gates of the kingdom of Heaven seeking to enter. I’ve often heard it said that on the day of judgment, many will be surprise to see who made it and who did not. There shall be some whom while they lived on this earth were deemed hopeless by others and yet they may very well be the ones standing in the presence of The Almighty full of joy and thanksgiving on that great and coming day of Our Lord Jesus Christ. While others who were thought of as GREAT men/women of God, Holy, and Righteous, for some they may find themselves standing outside the closed door knocking, desiring of the Lord to open the door and welcome them in. But instead The Lord shall declare to them: “I NEVER KNEW YOU, DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.” They would profess to the Lord their many good deeds, the many times they’ve prayed in His Name, and in His Name did wondrous works but it would make no difference at all. For it is not their outward works that prevented them from entering in, the culprit will be the wicked intent of their hearts.

Anonymous said...

The Lord tells us here in the book of Matthew 7th chapter to “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Such are men/women who “profess” the Lord Jesus and by all outward appearance would be considered Godly ministers of the Gospel, but their inward motives are wicked and sinful as they have no true desire to APPROPRIATELY feed the sheep but their desires lie elsewhere. These are “self-made” ministers lacking the anointing of the Holy Spirit, but with enough alluring speech are able to deceive many into believing an anointing exists. Their hearts are not centered on the spiritual welfare of the sheep in seeing that they are nourished properly for IF it were, they would preach the TRUTH of the Gospel in it’s ENTIRETY and not only the “portions” that would stimulate the growth of their pocketbooks. These self-made ministers DESPITE the outward godly appearance, have used the gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ as a business opportunity to EARN a great profit. This is wicked and evil in the sight of the Lord and although you would not confess this wickedness yourselves and REPENT that you may be saved from the wrath of God, I declare to you that UNLESS you repent you shall indeed hear these words from the Lord on the day of judgment “I NEVER KNEW YOU”. Through trickery, you rob from the sheep and call it a “blessing”, the “favor of God” causing many of the sheep to stumble for they believed the words you spoke, and are now WORSE OFF than they were before! When they seek counsel you tell them somehow they’ve erred, they lacked the FAITH but you yourself have NO FAITH for IF you did, you would believe the Lord for YOUR OWN NEEDS rather than demand substance from the very ones YOU should be watching over. You are deceptive in every sense of the word and are NOT sent by God as His chosen vessel. REPENT of this evil, else you will never enter into the kingdom of Heaven DESPITE the many sermons you’ve preached, or how many times you’ve used the name of the Lord to do “wonderful works”. Your HEART is not right with The Lord, and the intent of your heart is all that would matter in the end. These false prophets the Lord speaks of here in the scriptures are doing the same things as many today in “prophesying” in the Name of The Lord, in His Name casting out devils, in His Name doing many wonderful works, etc. and yet HE not I declares that he will profess to them “I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.” Now, it is obvious their works is not the cause of His need to profess these devastating words to them, NOR are their works any indication they TRULY belong to Him. But, the cause of he declaring these words to them is that they are workers of iniquity. Their hearts are not right in his sight. They are not men/women AFTER his own heart, but have a heart of deception. Although outwardly they are able to shield the true intent of their hearts through good works, inwardly their hearts are ever so visible before the Lord and SOON their inward intentions shall be made known. REPENT and truly surrender to the Lord. There is NO amount of wealth, prestige, or notoriety worth hearing The Lord say: “I NEVER KNEW YOU”

Anonymous said...

Then there are some (false prophets) that have been strategically placed in the church by the “father of ALL lies” satan himself, to keep confusion, strife, division, and separatism prevalent within the Body of Christ. These men/women are most dangerous (spiritually) for their intent is far worse. They’ve already chosen their fate WILLINGLY, and their desire is to entice as many as they could down the path of unrighteousness and sin through false doctrine whereby those who follow would receive the same end results as they. They’ve already rejected the truth, yet will speak as if they are “living” the truth, all the while they’re “twisting” the truth, in hopes of leading many AWAY from the truth! They will NOT teach repentance, but bluntly demonstrates the acceptance of sin declaring “it is okay, God understands, he knows that we are weak and but humans, he will forgive, etc. etc.” and MANY follow after this deceit. Yes, it is true we serve a forgiving God, but we also serve a God who cannot look upon sin AND a God who will NOT be taken advantage of. Although He is a God of LOVE, He is ALSO a CONSUMING FIRE! Do we DARE tempt the Lord OUR GOD? We are COMMANDED to REPENT of our sins and repentance is NOT sorry one day, and back to your old ways the next. Repentance is TURNING YOUR BACK ON THE SIN IN YOUR LIFE and thus choosing to surrender yourself COMPLETELY To HIM and begin being LED of the Spirit, and not of the flesh. He is deserving of our FULL cooperation and obedience! But, these false prophets will not share this truth as it is not their desire you be set free, but rather that you remain bound! Remember that praying a ritualistic prayer, or declaring your sorry over and over again will NOT remove your sin. Sin is removed ONLY through the Blood of the Lamb of God, and we must FIRST REPENT of our sins, BELIEVE on the son of God, Y’shua and RECEIVE his gift of forgiveness and salvation……THEN, take up your cross and FOLLOW HIM. NOT your flesh, but HIM. NOT man, but HIM. NOT you way, but HIS WAY for He IS the way, the truth, and the life! His intentions and desires for you are ALL GOOD! He wants the best for you and HE KNOWS what IS best for you!

Beware of those who would teach opposite of the Truth and of those who would teach PARTIAL TRUTHS, for such are not following after the heart of The Lord! Remember the Lord declared you would know them by their fruits. These things shall not be hidden from those who desire to truly see. When the spiritual eyes have been opened, the “fruit” is revealed. Do not be deceived by the “shell” of the fruit. Outwardly, it may appear to be good, and all the while inwardly it is rotten to the core. Therefore, close your physical eyes and begin seeing with the spirit and in doing so, you will not be deceived.

Remain steadfast in the Word of God which is TRUTH!

Anonymous said...

I wish people could understand nobody wants to read a 58 paragraph comment. pre-write your comment and take a hour or so to cut 57 1/2 paragraphs off and then post...here is a example "yes he is a false prophet because the bible shows he is but we must not hate him we should love and pray for him" ok ? thank you!

Anonymous said...

WTFYFF

Anonymous said...

Im not sure where it says it , but adding to or subtracting from words in the bible means your going to hell. Pack a bottle of ice water Ronny, your going to need it.

Anonymous said...

I think we should all keep our opinions to ourselves and try to live our lives quietly. We should not try to tell other people about the bible, we need to read and find out for ourselves. We do not need to enter a church to find GOD! As long as he is in our hearts and minds then he is everywhere.

Anonymous said...

I understand some of you are angry with Ron. But, the Lord is allowing him to continue to test what is in our hearts, those of us who understand, and I am not seeing Christ coming out.

Mark 12:31
The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."

Proverbs 11:13
A gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy man keeps a secret.

Proverbs 16:28
A perverse man stirs up dissension, and a gossip separates close friends.

Proverbs 18:8
The words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to a man's inmost parts.

Proverbs 20:19
A gossip betrays a confidence; so avoid a man who talks too much.

Proverbs 26:20
Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip a quarrel dies down.

Proverbs 26:22
The words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to a man's inmost parts.

Romans 1:29
They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,

2 Corinthians 12:20
For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be. I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder.

1 Timothy 5:13
Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to.

3 John 1:10
So if I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, gossiping maliciously about us. Not satisfied with that, he refuses to welcome the brothers. He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church.

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Anonymous said...

WAKE UP PEOPLE! False prophets come and go, Ron too shall pass and his false teachings with him. Ron and Laura were both really good freinds of mine quite a few years ago in WWCG. Let's just say he had major control issues back then. Just ignore them. Let's all focus on feeding the hungry and clothing the naked. The rest God will take care of.

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Anonymous said...

First off i just wanted to say that Ronald very clearly believes what he says and apears to speak from a position of great compasionate love. I personally feel that he is unable to truly understand his purpose and is perhaps attempting to live up to his role as has mistakenly percieved it. Ronald has served the world in spreading messages of love and i must see this as part of lifes (or Gods) design. It's impossible to be driven by God without feeling his hand on you and understanding the intension of that hand takes a wisdom beyond most of us. I feel him to be a false prophet but not by intended deception. He is all the same in many ways a gift to be thankful for.
To all who have written attcking posts i have to say that knowing God and being known by God is a very simple matter of giving joyfull and unconditional love to all creation. That realy is all there is to it.

Anonymous said...

First off i just wanted to say that Ronald very clearly believes what he says and apears to speak from a position of great compasionate love. I personally feel that he is unable to truly understand his purpose and is perhaps attempting to live up to his role as has mistakenly percieved it. Ronald has served the world in spreading messages of love and i must see this as part of lifes (or Gods) design. It's impossible to be driven by God without feeling his hand on you and understanding the intension of that hand takes a wisdom beyond most of us. I feel him to be a false prophet but not by intended deception. He is all the same in many ways a gift to be thankful for.
To all who have written attcking posts i have to say that knowing God and being known by God is a very simple matter of giving joyfull and unconditional love to all creation. That realy is all there is to it.

Anonymous said...

First off i just wanted to say that Ronald very clearly believes what he says and apears to speak from a position of great compasionate love. I personally feel that he is unable to truly understand his purpose and is perhaps attempting to live up to his role as has mistakenly percieved it. Ronald has served the world in spreading messages of love and i must see this as part of lifes (or Gods) design. It's impossible to be driven by God without feeling his hand on you and understanding the intension of that hand takes a wisdom beyond most of us. I feel him to be a false prophet but not by intended deception. He is all the same in many ways a gift to be thankful for.
To all who have written attcking posts i have to say that knowing God and being known by God is a very simple matter of giving joyfull and unconditional love to all creation. That realy is all there is to it.

Anonymous said...

First off i just wanted to say that Ronald very clearly believes what he says and apears to speak from a position of great compasionate love. I personally feel that he is unable to truly understand his purpose and is perhaps attempting to live up to his role as has mistakenly percieved it. Ronald has served the world in spreading messages of love and i must see this as part of lifes (or Gods) design. It's impossible to be driven by God without feeling his hand on you and understanding the intension of that hand takes a wisdom beyond most of us. I feel him to be a false prophet but not by intended deception. He is all the same in many ways a gift to be thankful for.
To all who have written attcking posts i have to say that knowing God and being known by God is a very simple matter of giving joyfull and unconditional love to all creation. That realy is all there is to it.

Anonymous said...

Oops, sorry for the multi posting. Really no idea what happened there. C".

Sky Strickland said...

This is truly astounding. Half of of you are doing exactly what those listed psalms are warning us about. GOSSIPING. Those of you who are only quoting what the bible says...GOOD JOB. The rest of you are just voicing your opinions and what you think about the situation. We only know what the bible tells us. The bible says that no one will know the end of time. It also says that their will be false prophets...DUH!! If God has to take away his blessing from a wicked world (which we pretty much are) why would he confide in two people, telling them when the end is? Answer that. I'm not voicing my opinion. Im stating fact. The bible says no one will know. Newsflash people!! If you believe what the bible says then why would you believe this Ron guy. That is why the world is in such bad shape now. The bible even warns us about false prophets and states that no one will know the end. Yet we still have so called "Christians" that want to follow this man. Think people think.

Sky Strickland said...

And one more thing. You. The guy who says that Ron really believes in what he says and that he is compassionate. Are you being serious? The bible warns that Satan will put devious, false people or prophets in the church and everywhere else. So instead of believing what the bible warns about, you choose to believe that it all must just be a coincidence and Ron is a good, innocent man. Alot of people really need to use their brains. Again that is what is wrong with our world.

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Anonymous said...

First off all you people are brain dead. No where, No where in the bible is America mentioned. None, NADA, zip. No mention of destruction. Sorry Babaylon is Babaylon, not America.
You people need to get a life, instead of saying that America is some other name in the bible.
You all sound like the dooms day prophets in the 70s who said America was done , would never come back..........WRONG.

Maddie said...

We are absolutely minuscule in relation to the universe. So, if you believe that God created all that exists within it, our measly existence on Earth doesn't warrant all this time specific and detail oriented nonsense that you believe God has planned for us and our doomsday. The world can't last forever, and people do horrible things to one-another and to the Earth itself, so an eventual destruction (natural or otherwise) is inevitable. I fully respect your opinion if you believe Ronal Weinland, or the Bible's Revelation predictions; but, if you take time to look at it in the scheme of our society, the Earth, and the universe, all these predictions start to look rather pointless. Don't get me wrong, I do believe in God, but if you're that hard pressed to find an explanation for everything (including all the natural disasters that have been happening), I suggest you turn to science - it doesn't involve any blind faith, which I find rather comforting.

Maddie said...

And why on earth do people think that the downfall of America somehow signifies or is involved with the end of the world. There's a whole world full of people here, so if God does exist I'm rather convinced He isn't focusing the majority of his attention on America just because we are.

Anonymous said...

I've read Ron's writings. It's the typical collection of circular reasoning and convenient-isms
(read: It sounds like it makes sense, therefore it is truth!). Ron's thinking, like 90% of humanity's thinking, is infused with two characteristics: Egocentrism and its close cousin Ethnocentrism. The first says "What I believe is what everyone believes...or should if they're 'thinking right' ". The second says "My group/race/country is *the* most significant on Earth" The only thing that differentiates him from most others is that he desperately needs others to believe what he does and to tell him how wonderfull and smart he is for "leading them."

When I was in primary school 30 years ago, I remember the ancient nuns telling us with absolute certainty that The End Was Near because of the biblically-foretold rise of Communism and the nuclear holocaust, largely considered almost a certainty back then. All the signs were there for them too. They had lived through the depression, a world war, atomic immolation of cities and the first widely-circulated news of mass genocide. Then there were major earthquakes like the one in Alaska and wide-spread famine (though we didn't really learn about China until the 90's). The point of this: We're still here and The End Is Near baton has been passed from the nuns I knew to Ron and all the people like him.

On modern religion, I agreen with Robert Heinlein on two quotes: "Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child" - and - "The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery."

Does that make me an athiest? Nope. In fact I consider myself a Christian in the literalist tradition. What does that mean? It means that Christ said "Love your neighbor as yourself". No exceptions. Not gays. Not folks with different skin color. Not folks of different creeds or believes. No exceptions period. I reject the interpretations of his "followers" which are twisted by their own prejudices and their own inability follow Christ's very-straight-forward command. This command, and people's tendency to ignore it as too tough to carry out, explains why there are so few true Christians in the world.

Anonymous said...

Duh, duh...lol we're still here!! If he were a true prophet he would be doing the works of a prophet. There have not been any reports that he or his wife have been breathing fire on people and killing them. The Lord has sent him a dilusion that he would believe a lie..!